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  1. General "Buck" Turgedson Avatar
    General “Buck” Turgedson

    Sweet! The super-duper, super-cavitating torpedo. Long range, Unstoppable. Deadly. Not a thing of myth BTW.

  2. DWEEZIL THE WEASEL Avatar
    DWEEZIL THE WEASEL

    Even if they have it or something similar, I doubt they would use it. And I cannot see Putin giving one of these weapons away. Keep in mind, the longer this clown show drags on, the more tempting it will be for the Israelis to start employing tactical nukes. And they will drag the Golden Golem right along with them. Since events are starting to ramp up here at home, stay vigilant. Stay safe.

  3. Iran is lying…. because that’s the only weapon they have left.

    1. Most people here know who is lying.

  4. If true, a little alarming. I asked Grok about this…

    It has been suggested that Iran now posesses the VA-111 Shkval underwater missile. What would an effective countermeasure for such a device be? I assume our navy would detect something like this and be able to deploy a defense before it can hit one of our ships.

    The VA-111 Shkval (or its Iranian equivalent, often called the Hoot) is a real supercavitating torpedo, originally Soviet-designed and capable of extreme underwater speeds. Iran’s IRGC has publicly claimed possession of such a weapon (or one acquired/developed with Russian tech) that reaches ~100 m/s (roughly 200 knots or 370 km/h), positioning the country as one of only two nations with this capability alongside Russia.
    It works by creating a gas bubble (supercavitation) around itself via a special nose cone and rocket propulsion, slashing water drag dramatically. Typical specs (open sources):

    Launch speed: ~50 knots from a standard 533 mm tube.
    Terminal speed: >200 knots.
    Range: 7–15 km (depending on variant; Shkval-2 improves this slightly).
    Guidance: Mostly autopilot/inertial (straight-line or limited corrections); early versions lacked active acoustic homing, and the bubble plus rocket noise makes traditional sonar guidance very difficult.

    Yes, the U.S. Navy (or any modern navy) would almost certainly detect it. The rocket engine and collapsing/forming cavitation bubble produce an enormous acoustic signature—far louder than conventional torpedoes. Shipboard sonar (hull-mounted, towed arrays like those integrated with the SQQ-89 combat system), helicopter-dipped sonar, and especially the dedicated Torpedo Warning System (TWS) component of the Surface Ship Torpedo Defense (SSTD) program would pick it up at long range. The noise alone acts like a beacon.
    Reaction window is short but not zero. At maximum realistic range (~12–13 km) and 200 knots (~103 m/s), closure time is roughly 2 minutes. That is tight, but modern systems are automated or semi-automated for exactly this kind of fast-closing threat.

    Effective Countermeasures (Layered SSTD Approach)
    The U.S. Navy does not rely on a single “magic bullet.” Instead, it uses a detect-to-engage layered system (SSTD / Anti-Torpedo Torpedo Defense System), with ongoing upgrades funded through at least FY2030 specifically to handle advanced threats, including high-speed/supercavitating types.

    Soft-kill (decoy & deception)
    AN/SLQ-25 Nixie (towed acoustic decoy) and expendable Acoustic Device Countermeasures (ADC Mk 2 / Mk 6): These emit ship-like noise signatures to seduce acoustic- or wake-homing torpedoes. Effectiveness against a pure autopilot Shkval/Hoot is debated (since it may not “listen” actively), but they still create confusion and can force the incoming weapon off its predicted track. Newer generations (SLQ-25E and ADC upgrades) are explicitly being improved in current budgets.

    Hard-kill (interception)
    Anti-Torpedo Torpedo (ATT) / Countermeasure Anti-Torpedo (CAT) / Compact Rapid Attack Weapon (CRAW): Small, fast, highly maneuverable 6.75-inch interceptors launched from surface ships. They use the TWS data to race out, detonate near the incoming torpedo, and either destroy it directly or collapse its cavitation bubble with shockwave/overpressure (which causes the Shkval to lose stability and break apart). Fleet-wide rollout across >165 ships is planned by ~2030; prototypes and testing have been advancing rapidly.

    Ship maneuvers + evasion
    Because many Shkval variants run on a straight autopilot course, a quick hard turn (combined with decoys) can cause a miss. Modern warships are highly maneuverable, and combat systems can predict the torpedo track in real time.
    Best overall defense: Prevent the launch
    The Shkval’s short range is its Achilles’ heel. The launching platform (Iranian Kilo-class sub, surface ship, or coastal launcher) must get within ~10–15 km undetected. U.S. ASW (P-8 Poseidon aircraft, MH-60R helicopters, Virginia-class subs, surface escorts with sonar) is world-class and would engage the launcher long before it fires. In a real scenario, the torpedo itself would be a secondary threat.

    Bottom Line
    Your intuition is correct: detection is highly likely, and the U.S. Navy has purpose-built, layered defenses (TWS + Nixie/ADC + ATT hard-kill) that are being expanded specifically against fast-closing threats like the Shkval. It is not an “unstoppable” weapon in practice—its extreme speed buys surprise but sacrifices range, stealth, and guidance. No real-world engagement against a U.S. carrier group has ever occurred, so exact performance is classified/simulated, but the engineering and budget focus show the Navy takes supercavitating torpedoes seriously and has invested accordingly.
    In short: detect early → warn instantly → deploy decoys + interceptor → maneuver if needed. The system is designed precisely so a ship is not a sitting duck even against a 200-knot underwater rocket.

  5. Surf’s up baby!!!!!