Something to Consider

I will continue to put up information for people to consider concerning social security. I doubt that I will ever get my “investment” back and knew in my early twenties that it was a Ponzi scheme: it has been a target for elections since the 1980s. But here we are and people have quickly chosen a new class of people to attack. I remember the TV ads showing an old grandmother eating cat food or the Republicans pushing grandma in a wheelchair over a cliff. I asked Grok for the consequences of cutting off social security.

From Grok:

Cutting off Social Security benefits for every recipient would remove roughly $1.6–1.7 trillion a year from the incomes of about 71 million people and produce a sharp rise in poverty, a large drop in consumer spending, and heavy pressure on families and other public programs.

Scale of the program

As of mid-2026, the Social Security Administration reported about 71.3–71.5 million people in current-payment status, receiving roughly $138–139 billion per month (on the order of $1.66 trillion annualized). Retired workers and their dependents were the large majority (around 57 million), with average retired-worker benefits near $2,085 a month. Disabled workers and their families were about 8 million, and survivors about 5.8 million. Benefits also reach children of deceased or disabled workers.

Federal spending on the program was about $1.58 trillion in fiscal 2025, roughly 22–23 percent of the federal budget and a bit over 5 percent of GDP. Payroll taxes continue to fund most of it on a pay-as-you-go basis; an abrupt end to benefits is a different event from the scheduled shortfall that trustees project for the early 2030s, when incoming revenue would cover only about three-quarters to four-fifths of scheduled benefits.

Effects on recipients

Census-based analyses (Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, using 2024 data) find that Social Security keeps roughly 17 million people age 65 and older, and about 23.5 million people of all ages, above the official poverty line. Without the benefits, the poverty rate for adults 65 and older would be about 37–38 percent instead of roughly 10 percent. Surveys of seniors (for example, The Senior Citizens League) indicate that a large share depend on the program for half or more of their income, and a substantial minority for nearly all of it.

An immediate cutoff would therefore push millions of retirees, disabled workers, widows, and some children into or deeper into poverty. Many would be unable to cover rent or mortgage payments, food, utilities, medications, or Medicare Part B premiums (Medicare itself is a separate program). Dual recipients of Social Security and Supplemental Security Income would lose the larger benefit stream. Nursing homes, assisted living, and home-care arrangements that rely on these checks would see rapid nonpayment.

Economic effects

Benefit spending is spent quickly, especially by lower- and middle-income households. A 2025 National Institute on Retirement Security analysis of 2023 data estimated that about $1.38 trillion in benefits supported roughly $1.6 trillion in GDP value-added, $2.6 trillion in total output, about 12 million jobs, and hundreds of billions in tax revenue, with the largest employment effects in food services, health care, and retail. A full cutoff would be several times larger than the hypothetical ~19 percent reduction they modeled, which they estimated would already shrink that economic footprint by more than 16 percent.

The short-run result would be a large negative demand shock concentrated among older consumers: lower retail sales, restaurant traffic, medical-service utilization that is privately paid, and housing payments. Regions with high shares of retirees would be hit hardest. Congressional Budget Office analyses of smaller benefit reductions (the payable-benefits scenario after trust-fund exhaustion) already show an initial GDP decline from weaker demand, later partly offset by higher labor supply and lower federal borrowing. A total and sudden elimination would amplify the near-term contraction and raise defaults, evictions, and strain on local credit markets before any longer-run labor-supply response appeared.

Secondary and institutional effects

Adult children and other relatives would face large new support obligations. State and local safety-net programs, food banks, and Medicaid long-term-care spending (already means-tested) would see surging demand they are not funded to meet. Some older workers who can still work would delay retirement or return to the labor force, increasing labor supply at the margin, but many disabled beneficiaries and the oldest retirees could not. Political and legal resistance would be extreme; benefits are deeply entrenched, and past debates have centered on gradual adjustments to taxes, retirement age, or benefit formulas rather than termination.

In short, the program is large enough that ending all payments at once would be both a household income crisis for tens of millions of people and a macroeconomic contraction on the order of several percent of GDP in the first years, before any offsetting behavioral changes fully materialized.

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9 responses to “Something to Consider”

  1. Don’t worry I’m sure the boomers will wring every last dollar out of it at the expense of their children and grandchildren. But hey it’s the Boomer way. “You build it and baby, we will burn it down!”

    1. It will take longer than you think. You’ll probably get to draw yours. I wonder, if you do get to draw it, will your children/grandchildren blame you for “burning it all down”?

    2. They can stop social security, I don’t have a problem with that. In fact I’d appreciate the IRS not deducting all that money from my paychecks. HOWEVER, also be prepared to reimburse to me the 100K+ that I have been forced to pay into their ponzi scheme over the years.. I will take that in a lump sum yes, and I’d also appreciate interest on that money due to inflation.. but if they want to just steal what I and millions of others were FORCED to pay in, oh yes, expect trouble. It has felt like an extortion racket to me since forever. Yes, many seniors will find themselves in trouble but I’m not sure that’s my problem maybe they should go back to work like they expect me to do.. move in with their kids., whatever. They were nowhere to be found when I needed help but I still had to keep paying for them. The real issue isn’t the payees anyway, I’m sure they’ll figure things out.. it’s the lazy brainless freeloaders just like other comments indicate.

  2. Like everybody who worked and paid into SS, I view as getting my investment back, in other words its my money not .gov’s. I know that is not how .gov and politicians think.

    Yes, its a massive Ponzi scam, if a person had invested in an private wholly owned annuity investment instrument starting at age 22, they would be financially better off.

  3. For those who are truly concerned about getting their money back, start drawing Social Security at 62: better to get something than to get nothing if you foresee a major disruption in the Social Security Administration.

  4. Social Security will get paid until the government collapses. If they stop paying for any other reason, there will be a massive revolt the government can’t control. The government will keep piling on the debt until they default. Some kind of new debt system might delay it, but it will not stop it. Withdraw from the system as much as you can and “Prepare To Endure”.

  5. Before we make any changes to Social Security and Medicare here’s a suggestion….we remove EVERYONE from the programs who DIDN’T earn it. For years the left has been using both to buy votes from people who were never eligible for either…. mostly illegals.

    1. An excellent idea, but fat chance of it actually happening.

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