Is this a low IQ test? The peace talks to open the Strait of Hormuz fail so the solution is to blockade the Strait?
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24 responses to “Trump Shuts Down the Strait of Hormuz”
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tRUMP, playing 5 dimensional checkers.
Does anybody, in power, have the ability to say “…and THEN what?”, after jumping on the first thing that pops into their brain?
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Tree Mike, US produces 14 million barrels of oil a day. US uses 21 million barrels per day. US must import some of of the oil it uses because it uses various types of oil. I do not care what kind of checkers Trump “plays.” Our citizens are in grave danger due to macho daddy Trump. Everything yiu, eat, drink, including medicine is in danger of supply shortages.
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Why not use the Venezuela oil, unless that was a scam also.
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“Hormuz may be an asshole but he’s OUR asshole.”
Did I get this correct?
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The effect on US. will be a whole lot less than Europe and Asia. The Chinese lost Venezuela and Iran sources of oil. Hey, maybe the world will now allow sale of Russian oil. I imagine that’s a win for the readers of this blog.
Europe either buys from Russia (which they never stopped doing) or from the U.S. So does Asia. We would sell the oil, LNG to Europe at a competitive price, maybe have them throw in Greenland.U.S. now controls a huge portion of oil resources. I imagine they will talk to the Gulf States and Saudi Arabia to develop more pipelines to bypass the strait.
Iran withers on the vine.
What about Russian and Chinese intervention you say? As long as Russia can sell its oil to anyone and China can buy it from anyone (U..S. And Russia) you really think they are going to come to Irans rescue?
Hell, I think they would just a soon avoid the goat grab that is the Middle East.As for other items mentioned, fertilizer, plastics etc., where in the world did the idea that the Middle East is the only viable source for these items come from?
The world will adapt and work around without having to be held hostage to the insane Twelvers.-
Costs are going to go up for everyone. Shortages are going to hit everyone. There will be famines and deaths to innocents because of this idiotic war. You need to quit listening to Glen Beck. The Sunnis are more dangerous than the Shites ever dreamed of.
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Absolutely! Just wait for the shortages in fertilizer and rare minerals. Watch Africa and Europe; it will be ugly and WE will be asked to help.
Feel like I am in the Twilight Zone – “The peace talks to open the Strait of Hormuz fail so the solution is to blockade the Strait”
How does this make any sense? Put our Navy out there as sitting ducks through the Strait. Reportedly, the Iranians have caves and tunnels all through the cliffs; will be easy to hit targets in the strait this way.Next distraction?
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Chris, I think you are correct, and average people of these countries will be the ones to suffer the most. I fear that even when this comes to an end the average person is going to suffer greatly. The disruption will probably cause major shortages. Remember when Glen Beck used to sound like Ron Paul? Now he sounds like Levinsey Graham. Probably be seen walking around Disney World with a magic wand soon
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Glen who?
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Well that is going to be the Manila Bay for the American Navy, except this time we are Spain. It will probably be over before any of our “allies” get any token ships over there if that is what they had planned. Interdicting ships for any nation that buys from Iran or pays them for passage is a recipe for war with China and the probable end of our relationship with just about anyone who was formerly an ally of ours. The destruction of the international supply network and financial system is baked into this cake too.
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According to Braden Langley (Langley Outdoors on Youtube) the Iranians admitted that they can’t clear the mines from the strait because they didn’t document the locations accurately. They just dumped mines from small boats. And the Iranians do not have mine clearing equipment.
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Sounds about right. Quick and easy, a very loud KA-BOOM is sure to follow.
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I heard that the U.S. Navy will be using trained dolphins to detect mines, possibly sticking metallic transponders on the devices so the Navy can find them & detonate same.
Man, the things that a dolphin has to do to earn a free fish dinner!
This is obviously hazardous work. PETA will NOT be invited to any after-action assessments.
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Palantir got a 448 million dollar contract to fix this submarine. So what happened? Our military has become a hopeless swamp of corruption, waste and inefficiency. The problem will never be tackled unless (possibly) the country enters a major wartime crisis, because all the people that need to fix the problem are on the take.
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Our military has become a hopeless swamp of corruption, waste and inefficiency. The problem will never be tackled unless (possibly) the country enters a major wartime crisis, because all the people that need to fix the problem are on the take.
Ask yourself why the Pentagon had a 448 million dollar contract with Palantir to fix the submarine USS Boise and 11 years later and 800 million: the Navy has abandoned the project. Follow the money. Ask Trump.
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I hope to see China and Russia test the blockade. Then see what our lunatic President does. Hopefully the US Navy has enough sense to disobey the ‘Commander-in-Chief’ should he decide to interdict them.
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Roth, I am hoping for the same. I am also hoping our troops disobey commands.
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US ships littering the bottom of the Strait will stop the flow of traffic just as well as Iran’s toll booth. Coming soon…
And maybe they should start building the war memorial now to avoid the rush. Seems like the Vietnam one would make a good model, maybe with more room for names and in blue and white so everyone knows immediately what/who it is for.
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He is calling it his Triumphal Victory Arch. So much winning.
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This current style of overstating/overselling purported achievements, to the point of appearing to be satire, really is tiresome. Pride has to be backed by a job actually well done, or it just looks and sounds ridiculous. As of now, there is quite the gulf between the delivered reality and the marketing. I believe that’s a large part of the reason so many people are put off by it.
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Right now there are an enormous number of tankers steaming for US ports in the Gulf. Trump intends to pull in a whole lot of income to the US. I believe he thinks he can get China to pressure the Iranians to stop their extortion of shipping. This may happen as China needs oil but they’ll be pissed off at Trump also. So far Iran is resistant to any of Trump’s tactics and are just trying to wait it out.
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The goal is not shutting the straits but controlling traffic through it. Iran wants to be the gatekeeper of the straits. Trump is saying no way…we are in charge. A blockade does NOT mean closing them. It means controlling who does transit the straits. BIG difference. Control over the straits should NEVER have been ceded to Tehran. Another problem Trump is trying to fix. The true risk to this being it gives Iran a chance to sink a naval vessel or two as the straits are a dangerous place to operate. And I have no doubt they will try.
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Iran closing the Strait in response to a military attack and the United States failing to open them again by any combination of military means has been an assumed fact and the most common outcome of every military wargame the Rand Corp and others have run since the year 2000. The only time the US wins these tabletop wargames is when the Iranian side is unfairly handicapped to produce a palatable outcome for our politicians. It is inconceivable for our flag officers to not know about these war games and the results in the first place, and it is gross professional incompetence to not have a grasp of the military and economic realities of a closed Hormuz in the second. The idea that the President of the United States could not grasp any of this as well or was not sternly informed ahead of time seems unlikely.
The Strait was open and being utilized by all nations before Trump and Bibi tried to pull off a 48 hour decapitation war. The fact that it failed and the Strait is now effectively closed is all on Trump, 100%. You seem to have a weak grasp of the whole thing yourself by typing in all uppercase “…NEVER been ceded…” just like Trump himself and arguing the Trump view of the World that does not align with reality. Iran has full control of what passes through due to Geography that cannot be changed and military power that the United States cannot defeat. Word games about what a blockade is and attempting one against Iran and Iranian customers is not going to open the area to traffic from the Gulf States, which is the whole point. It does make things exponentially worse though and runs the risk of war with people who have a better navy than us. About the only thing you get right is that US warships will be sunk, the likelihood of which should tell you something.
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