Social Security

She is correct. The money in social security was stolen by the government. Federal employees and Congressmen receive a good return on their pensions funded by us. I receive a devalued payment where over 50% goes to pay taxes, electric/gas and medical insurance.

This is old news and Congress never fixed the problems they created. No one talks about double pensions for Federal employees. Insider trading makes federal employees rich.

I remember paying for multiple social security increases when I worked but no one discusses that fact. I never thought I would receive any of the money that I put in. And since most of my contributions were through my business, I paid both contributions personally.

It’s sad watching how easily people fall for dividing us. Here is my response to a “pastor” on X:

So much honoring your mother and father.

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  1. I guess we are as stupid as they think we are, the grift just goes on.

  2. The Social Security system was never anything more than a Ponzi scheme. It was designed that way and functioned (more or less) that way. It was marketed as a means to keep the old and too-worn-out-to-work Americans from starving. In 1935, it established the age at which one could draw full benefits as 65. At that time, the life expectancy of an American male was 59.9. In 1937, the Supreme Court ruled that Social Security fell under Congress’s taxing authority – i.e. for all intents and purposes, it was a tax.

    That is what no one seems to comprehend. I paid into it too – against my will – for years. I never expected to receive a penny. But those who do get the benefits now get far, far more than they ever paid. Inflation, COLAs, etc. Yes, I know that if one had somehow privately saved an equal amount to his Social Security taxes and invested that money, it might be possible – but highly unlikely – that one would have significantly more money than the fedgov doles out.

    But how many could have or would have had the means and the willpower to save that money every week, every month, and not touch it? How many could have invested it wisely, taken losses and not sold until stocks went up? How many banks have gone under since? And even in the best of all possible worlds, how much would legitimately be left with the dollar now having lost 98% of its purchasing power since 1940, when the first Social Security benefits were actually paid out?

    tl;dr: People don’t think, they emote. I’m sick to death of hearing about “MY” Social Security. It was never anyone’s but the politicians’. And those who’ve lived large (or small) on it have been the exception. How many people in all generations ever had a pension or guaranteed retirement? The idea that one should be able to stop working at 68 and live comfortably for another quarter century is sheer insanity. Human bodies and history don’t work that way. And no, your children and grandchildren will have no Social Security – they will be too busy being taxed as oppressors to pay all the benefits for the nons. For the chirren of JayZ and AOC and Hasan Piker.

    That’s the real issue. Money might be able to shield some Whites from the demographic tsunami that’s utterly unavoidable now, but only for a while. Many of us now will be dead, but our children and grandchildren will be helots.

    F*ck Social Security.

    1. Amen. I’ve paid into it as long as I’ve been working, and have already accepted the fact I’ll never see a penny of it back. It’s 100% written off at the point, as I’m 24 years away from being able to collect it. I don’t expect the country, and thereby the legislative framework created social security, to even exist in 24 more years.

      There’s also a high – and ever increasing – likelihood that I’ll be dead before the age of eligibility, even if one assumes that the country, and social security, still exist at that point. Given what we all know is coming, guys my age are likely to find it very difficult to survive to a ripe old age. We are facing collapse right as we enter the age range where our health and fitness are harder to maintain, and much more likely to deteriorate. No longer young enough to have the piss and vinegar to fight at full strength, and not quite old enough to be written off entirely.

      I’m facing terrible strife, and an uphill battle, at just about the most inconvenient juncture in my life. If I were 20 years older. I could die in the fight without feeling cheated out of much. 20 years younger, and I’d have far better odds of surviving. But instead I’m in that interregnum of being somewhat physically diminished by age, while still having the strong desire to fight the bastards. Lucky me.

  3. Social security is a giant government created Ponzi scheme created by FDR and his cronies to buy votes. As such it MUST collapse eventually. No matter how many tricks politicians come up with it cannot continue and therefore won’t. And since most people are lazy stupid and shortsighted they have assumed it will always be there for them so instead of planning and saving for the future they blew their money on STUFF. For everyone who saved for retirement there is at least one or more who couldn’t be bothered to.

    1. Social security will likely be available for those who haven’t worked and/or haven’t saved. And especially for the “newcomers”.

      Those who have worked hard and saved all of their lives will be punished via “means testing” where they will get a reduced amount or nothing at all, depending upon how much they have saved… we’re already seeing this with the IRMAA medicare tax, plus social security payouts are already subject to taxes… and it’s only going to get worse. Sure, you will still “receive” SS but if you have a 401k or get a pension, you will just give it all back via higher taxes and fees.

      1. And that’s it too.. I am so sick of this argument. I won’t ever be able to actually ‘retire’ so I’ve made no plans to do so. If I can really get SS I figure all it will do is help the taxes on my income earned from working. And medicare.. you must really have your head in the sand to think doctors today really care about your health above profits so medicare, forget about it. My generation.. we’ll be one of the first to go without health coverage at all so be real careful you don’t take off a finger with a table saw or something. .. fun story.. my daughter’s dad ran off and I was left a single parent with a small child.. the counter culture movement worked wonders in my life.. one day when we are starving because it’s real difficult to work with a tiny child to take care of.. so I go into the local welfare office to try get food stamps at least, my black neighbors had so much food in the fridge they could barely close the door.. I was making a big 8 bucks an hour in the 90’s, with a college education no less.. and they told me I wasn’t eligible.. quote unquote I was told “We can’t help you. You are a white woman with a college education.” literally.. they said that to me.. basically I’m just a taxpayer without any expectations of help that gets given to others with my tax dollars. It’s truly infuriating. And now they want to rob my SS too.

  4. This is what gets me all the time. I’m included in that age bracket as a ‘boomer’ but I was a tiny kid in the 60’s and didn’t even know what sex was much less drugs. I didn’t hear about woodstock until a decade after the fact. By the time I was in college, mine was the age group that heard of AIDS at the exact time we might have been partying like our older cousins.. std’s were everywhere.. basically we were the ones that paid the price, stopped running around and going out so much… not vice versa. We worked for 70’s era wages in the 80’s and paid 80’s inflated prices for everything. It was tough. And SS is a ponzi scheme. I’ll be lucky to get back what I paid in… pretty sure that won’t happen. They really should cut off the Boomer group in the mid-1950’s because anyone born after that time is more or less just a scapegoat for the sins of our elders. My parents generation had it pretty good, blame them. They, and generations earlier even, are the ones that introduced things like LSD and the ‘counter culture’ to the ‘boomer’ generation. This stuff didn’t come out of nowhere one day from a group of teenagers. The boomers were really just the guinea pigs.

    1. You are most likely part of “Generation Jones”, a contingent that got screwed by being overshadowed (and thus grouped I with) by the boomers, even more than Generation X did. So, despite rightly being a separate generational cohort (that has only recently gotten minimal recognition as a distinct group), Generation Jones was subsumed into the massive gravitational field of the boomer generation. While the start and end dates for inclusion in gen Jones (versus boomer) is somewhat debated, there is very clearly a dividing line that imparts a much different life experience on the two groups, owing to their differing birth date ranges.

      Generation Jones is generally defined as those born between 1954 and 65. I think late Gen X is also done a disservice in a similar fashion, as the life experience of someone born in 1966 (first year of Gen X) is far different from that of someone born in 1980. Even my own experience (born 1974, smack in the middle of the defined range) felt quite different from what I observed of my older cousins while growing up.

      They were starting high school the same year my middle brother was born (1980). That’s a pretty wide range to encompass a single generation to be grouped together. Abortion also became legal a year before I was born, resulting in a huge loss of numbers for generation X. That fact alone has negatively impacted our influence as a group, since we are dwarfed in numbers by the boomers on one end, and millennials on the other.

  5. After thinking about this accusation that the “boomers” have ruined everything for future generations I have decided that it’s really the fault of the “Greatest Generation.” As the country began prospering the “GG” made life easier for everyone. Most especially their children the boomers. The boomers then gave their children a better life. Their children all had electricity, automobiles, huge amounts of food at a very convenient local supermarket. Very few had to weed a garden, process their own meat, can, cure, or even freeze a years’ worth of food. As each generation has come along life has become easier and more abundant than the Greatest Generation could ever imagine. I fully understand why these young people are so angry. As a whole the population of this country has become weak as a result of generations of ease and abundance. I would suggest you change your life and build a self-reliant homestead where you raise all of your own food, process it and live a life disconnected from the system that has oppressed you. Before you start, there has always been those that say I can’t. There are people all over the country of all age groups doing right now. I have been mentoring families for years on how to do it. So, just disconnect from the system and quit worrying about it.

  6. before LBJ and the Democrat congress got their hands on the SS fund.
    it was FAT. like 2.5 trillion in 1966-7 there about. it well, the assholes in congress want that money. so they passed a law/whatever to “roll it” in to the “general fund” and that is where the money came from to fund all of the social programs they wanted. by 1970. it was spent, gone, wasted away on feel good bullshit. my parents where spitting mad about it too.
    then in the 1980’s good old Joe thought we should pay TAX on the money people got from SSI/D. didn’t they already pay taxes on it before it went in ? I have often wonder when people are going to wake up to the FACT that assholes in congress have robbed us blind for the last 50 plus years ?
    when I explain this to people, they understand why I say if old Vlad was to nuke DC, he be doing us and the world a favor.
    I still vote even though it doesn’t mean much anymore if it ever did.
    but I do keep a rifle handy just in case. I don’t really watch the news anymore as it all lies and bullshit. and I loathe just about every asshole in DC and the state house.

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    David, thank you for taking that “Pastor” to task. Sad and true that Woodstock, the Manson Family, sex, drugs, and rock & roll defined my generation. What these Gen Xers, Gen Y, and Millennials fail to realize is that while these degenerates were doing their thing, I and millions like me were serving during the Viet Nam War, coming home to a nation which turned its back on us, (((Hollywood))) which portrayed us as murdering psychopaths, and dealing with PTSD and the effects of Agent Orange.
    Yet most of us quietly found jobs, raised families, contributed to our communities, and got on with our lives. We PAID INTO THE SYSTEM(!). And even though I personally paid into it, since I had my Peace Officer pension, I could not collect from it. So, if these shambling, texting, slack-jawed, mouth-breathing, brain-dead, vaping Mall Zombies want to blame me for “stealing their future”, let them just look into the mirror. I owe them nothing.

  8. I still remember my parents talking about how their kids would never see Social Security as they were discussing something they heard on the news on the radio during a car ride. Now that I’m older, I know they were talking about when Congress was voting to move SS into the General Fund.

    I’ll be 60 in a couple weeks.

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